War leaves an indelible scary mark on people's lives, but at the same time there is an illusion, and maybe war is beautiful? The honored artist of Ukraine, Alexander Vasyakin, who had passed the blockade of Leningrad and the fronts of the Second World War, who lived a long creative life, talks on this topic. (Two monuments of work by A. Vasyakin were installed in Moscow: a monument to the Defenders of Moscow, and a sculpture of John Paul II).